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#1 Tropical420

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:00 PM

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By Matthew Yglesias | Posted Monday, Nov. 12, 2012, at 4:19 PM ET



Back in July, I learned the striking fact that if marijuana were fully legal, a decent high could be had for a few cents.


Now that Colorado and Washington have legalized marijuana for recreational purposes—no “medical marijuana” fig leaf here or even Dutch-style toleration—will pot prices crater?


Almost certainly not. For starters, both states are trying to make money off pot. They envision a legal framework broadly modeled on alcohol regulation with licensing schemes for production, retailing, and distribution of marijuana, coupled with laws against underage consumption and driving while intoxicated. The states hope to harvest revenue from taxes and licensing fees. When a commodity is cheap, the main driver of the retail price is often excise taxes. And state governments have good reason to want to tax marijuana consumption. Most credible analysis indicates that pot doesn’t pose health risks as serious as those associated with alcohol or tobacco, but dependency is still a real issue and inhaling smoke is still bad for you, so the standard case for sin taxes to promote good health applies. Manufacturers and distributors of marijuana actually welcome the idea of paying taxes since the alternative is going to jail.

But in many ways this isn’t the real reason pot prices will stay pricey. The main roadblock to a dirt-cheap high is that even though marijuana will soon be legal in Washington and Colorado, it’s still illegal in the United States of America. Consequently, entrepreneurs looking to get into the industry are going to be troubled by the reality that both Washington and Colorado are part of the United States of America. On a day-to-day level, this isn’t necessarily a huge deal. The Drug Enforcement Agency only has so many agents, and can’t substitute for the Denver and Seattle Police Departments in terms of routine enforcement of marijuana prohibition. Even with no change in the underlying state laws, simply instructing state and local law enforcement personnel to stop enforcing the law would be in many ways a game-changer.

But in terms of economics, the main way marijuana criminalization raises prices has nothing to do with individual possession or low-level retailing. The issue is that currently marijuana isn’t grown, dried, and distributed the way a normal agricultural product would be.

True legalization ought to drive the price way down by bringing modern cultivation and production methods to bear. In Canada, industrial hemp is grown for about $500 per acre. But that’s done on large farms, not small grow houses. With the application of modern efficient agribusiness methods, marijuana prices should be more like tea prices—closer to $3 an ounce of usable product than the current $300.

Yet none of this is going to happen as long as marijuana cultivation is against federal law. The DEA is not going to be able to police these states rigorously, but they’ll be able to spot a gigantic marijuana farm pretty easily. Even if the Obama administration takes Emily Bazelon’s wise counsel and eases off on federal interference it’s still going to be extremely challenging to raise large quantities of startup capital to finance businesses that remain technically illegal. Even if President Obama suddenly announced he wouldn’t enforce any marijuana laws, pot businesses would still be tenuous. That easing off could be reversed at the drop of a hat, making a decision to go build a marijuana drying and packaging factory quite risky.

And under the more likely scenario where federal enforcement of anti-drug laws remains as rigorous as logistically feasible, would-be marijuana enterprises are going to have even bigger problems. A handful of well-publicized threatening letters to commercial real estate owners threatening asset forfeiture, for example, could deter property owners from signing leases with marijuana retailers. Similar actions could interfere with firms’ willingness to involve themselves in marijuana transportation. None of this will by any means eliminate all marijuana cultivation, transportation, distribution, and retailing—these things all occur under current law, after all. But it does mean that it’s relatively unlikely that the pot business could develop the kind of scale and predictability that would allow for dramatically more efficient operation. Instead, production and distribution will remain relatively artisanal as even the most successful firms are starved of capital.

It’s going to be very challenging for state governments to obtain significant tax revenue from marijuana unless it becomes a real legal industry. This tax argument alone should look increasingly persuasive to politicians in other states, especially nearby ones (Portland is very close to the Washington border) and it’s clear that time is against marijuana prohibition. But we still have a long way to go before we see the nearly free high that could come with real legalization.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:20 PM

congratulations colorado and washington states on their vote to change cannabis access to better reflect the public's enlightenment.  Forcing the cannabis industry to work only in the field of direct marketing and cash without access to the banking industry does not remove it from the manipulations, exploitations and lack of regulations in a black market.  Acceptance and tolerance may not be our virtues, but profit making has always had its own energies.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:23 PM

Now that our govt enjoys open market competition through their own version of extortion and taxation, the cannabis industry should flourish in such a like minded environment.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:00 AM

Even though I read Yglesias' article with an open mind, I don't agree with what he's saying

He thinks that marijuana won't be able to be sold because growers will have massive pot gardens growing in the forest and the DEA planes will spot them. Obviously this guy doesn't know what is going on because that's not how Colorado is going to sell weed. There's more than enough growers willing to grow in private facilities, away from the prying eyes of the DEA. They will distribute the product from a handful of 100-200 plant operations, not from some people growing big fields of it out in the open

He also assumes that because landlords will be threatened with property forfeiture, the entire industry will cease to exist. That may be true but the DEA doesn't have the resources to go after every single one of them..they might go after a few but they will have trouble identifying all of them, especially if the state doesn't care to assist the Feds..right now there are warehouses with hundreds of plants, and the landlord has no idea what's going on because they keep it in hidden areas and they have ways to keep the smell out

I'm not saying that CO and WA will be able to implement the law for sure, but if anything the Feds will win by taking the case to the Supreme Court, not by raiding grow sites and seizing properties. They don't have the man power

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

Mike, those are the reasons this guy thinks the price won't plummet and stay around where they are now, but not that the entire industry will be thwarted.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

I am still waiting to see what the federal gov is going to do about these propositions.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:18 AM

View Postbudluva, on 13 November 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

Mike, those are the reasons this guy thinks the price won't plummet and stay around where they are now, but not that the entire industry will be thwarted.

Yes, but look at his reasoning for why he believes prices won't decrease - he claims that too many grow sites will be raided, landlords will have their properties seized, and the state won't be able to tax marijuana...I respect his opinion but I really don't think any of that will deter new businesses from selling weed, which will result in more competition and ultimately the prices decrease

budluva, do you know that most collectives in CO are way cheaper than in CA? $35/8th is normal. I'm not saying that there will be a dramatic decrease in prices but I wouldn't be surprised if it went down to $25/8th

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:39 PM

Always remember if you dont like the price you can go someplace else..or grow your own. I've always found that when people try producing high quality marijuana(like at most co-ops/collectives) they start to realize how difficult, and expensive it is to grow excellent pot.
You dont like the price? Go somewhere else...better yet try growing your own..Then that "high" priced 1/8th will seem like a great deal..Never heard a truly "sick" MMJ patient bitch about price. We are just happy its legal for us.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:29 PM

New Year time frame should be enough for the visits to begin. Progressive opportunities are the reason for the risk.  I'm tired of the prohibition lies perpetuating the ignorance behind cultural stigma forcing me to seek relief in the dark.




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