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#1 Ivy

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 08:38 AM

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Forget the munchies. A surprising new study suggests that pot  smokers are less likely to be obese than their drug-free counterparts
           
                                         Posted Image Marijuana users, lampooned for decades for indulging in  high-caloric treats, are actually less likely to be obese than Americans  who don't smoke pot, according to a new study. Photo: Reuters/CORBIS     SEE ALL 51 PHOTOS

                                                                                Stoners are often characterized as  pizza-eating loafs with overgrown bellies. But surprising new research  out of France has found that pot smokers are actually thinner than those  who don't indulge in marijuana. Here, a brief guide to this  counterintuitive finding:

What did the study find?
Dr. Yann Le Strat, a psychiatrist at France's Louis-Mourier Hospital, looked at  data from two studies of U.S. adults from the early 2000s and noted the  weight differences between those who used cannabis and those who  didn't. In both studies, cannabis users had relatively low rates  of obesity: 14.3 and 17.2 percent. American adults who didn't use  cannabis had obesity rates of 22 and 25.3 percent.

Is this what researchers expected?
Nope. "Cannabis is supposed to increase appetite," says Le Strat.  "So we hypothesized that cannabis users would be more likely to have  higher weight than non-users and be more likely to be obese." Marijuana  activist Michelle Aldrich isn't all that surprised. "It's true," she says. "I don't know too many fat marijuana smokers."

What's causing this phenomenon?
"There could be many other reasons why pot smokers have less obesity," says dietitian Andrea Giancoli.  "Maybe they're inclined to exercise more, be outdoors more, eat more  fruits and vegetables." Aldrich thinks it could be related to the body's  endocannabinoid system — a group of receptors, primarily in the brain,  that respond to compounds in marijuana. But the bottom line is that the  exact mechanism responsible for this correlation remains a mystery — for  now.

So... sparking up isn't the new Weight Watchers?
'Fraid  not. "The take-home message is certainly not 'smoke cannabis, it will  help you lose weight,'" says Le Strat. "The possibility that cannabis is  associated with a lower risk of obesity remains an interesting  hypothesis, but certainly does not counterbalance its negative effects  on health and mental health." Well, even with these inconclusive  results, says Ben Yakas at Gothamist,  I can't help but wonder what would happen if portly New Jersey Gov.  Chris Christie "stayed away from the helicopters, fatty foods, and  beaches for awhile and got in touch with his inner Snoop Dogg."

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#2 Mike949

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 04:47 PM

I can vouch for this study. When I was smoking heavily every day, I would get the munchies but I would only eat 2 meals a day so I was around 190 pounds. I'm 6'1, so that's normal for me. But then when I quit for about a year, I put on a massive amount of weight and was 245. Shit. Now that I'm smoking again, I've lost 20 pounds and am down to 225. If I start exercising and eating a little bit healthier I'm sure I can get down to the weight I was before. But yeah, this report is dead on

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:12 PM

interesting link! great read!!!!
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Posted 01 October 2011 - 07:58 PM

overindulgence and irresponsible use of cannabis as a medicine can lead to bad dietary choices (i.e. ordering pizza, eating cold cut sandwiches, calzones etc..- actually what I would order daily a couple years ago lol),

but I have noticed that if you medicate for 1 day(and have regularly been medicating before this) and do not medicate the next day common things experienced are lack of appetite and some mild difficulty in sleeping etc...

so I would say, much like all other meds, the same truth holds: the effects are usually the opposite as the body withdraws the substance from your body. So this can be helpful, if you want to eat less one day, just don't medicate for that day, and you will likely be less inclined to eat alot. :tastyleaf:

Your body begins to self-regulate after 1 or 2 days however, and your appetite will return to it's normal state in that amount of time i've noticed. This is 1st hand observation & everyone's body may be different (metabolism) but I've read similar experiences from discontinued cannabis consumption. I've always considered it a plus, if you medicate casually (every other day or few times a week), you can use this towards your advantage.

Edited by dcgamer, 01 October 2011 - 08:02 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:05 AM

I've recently been hungry, but since upping my dosage for treatment of anxiety, have been eating a lot less often, which is good (for me). My tip: vaporize before dinner, not after. That way I am nice and hungry for a healthy meal.

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 11:54 AM

I find that after getting blazed there are times when I think I'm just as hungry as can be, but drinking a glass of water and getting re-hydrated helps immensely to stifle that hunger.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 08:15 PM

I usually dont even get too hungry anymore unless I smoke a lot but I notice I have been getting in better shape since I started smoking concentrates...which is the same time i started working out regurly again... but it makes me think now if they are somehow correlated... wierd huh

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Posted 26 October 2011 - 09:38 PM

Thanks IVY for this post

This report is true.

Me before Year 2008: 215lbs and taking meds for diabetes.
Now I'm 185 I've dropped 40 lbs of fat-gained 10 lbs of muscle and have not taken oral meds for 3 yrs.

Once I figured out I had ECD (endocannabinoid deficiency)I supplemented my diet with MJ which brought my body back to homeostasis which decreased the need to overeat, which decreased the amount of fat my body had to send insulin to, and therefore with less mass to send insulin to, your blood sugar decreases and my A1C dropped from over 9 to under 7.

Believe the hype, MJ is a PED for sure.

So it can wake you up like caffeine, it can put you in a good mood like Paxil or alcohol, it can give you an energy boost like '5 hour energy', 'Rockstar' or nicotine, and it can put you to sleep like propofol. Oh, and now it makes you lose weight like zenadrine?

I laugh at people who use these substances over weed. Hypocrites. Michael Jackson tops this list as he was too good for marijuana. He preferred his dealers wear white coats and that makes it ok?!

Why is pot bad? :doh:
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 09:49 PM

My ideal weight is 160 to 169 lbs.  When I got my rec during 2006, I weighed 226 lbs due to hormone imbalances due to severe obstructive sleep apnea and several injuries that interfered with sleep. I needed to loose 57 lbs. o' fat.

When I got my rec, I quickly shed 10 lbs. o' fat by getting better sleep via smoke and edibles.  Long story short, I took off 57 lbs. o' fat within 2 years and have maintained that weight loss since then.  I still weigh 170 lbs after leveling off 2-years ago!

I tried the juice diet for a few weeks last month and lost 10 lbs. o' fat fast, I went down to 160 lbs.  I stopped the juice diet to see how my body would react and immediately gained back 10 lbs.  I'm starting the juice diet again!

...the ideal diet:  1 to 2 grams a day of smoke, 1 strong edible before bed at least 10 nights per month or as needed, moderate exercise, a diet rich in fruits, veggies, nuts, grains, juice (fresh juices from veggies and fruits, never store bought juice, ever), minimal animal protein, and lots of hemp protein powder.  Definitely get 6 to 8 hours rest per night (good rest is very important to weight loss, when you don't sleep enough, this triggers the fight or flight stress response and your body stores fat and you crave carbs).

I tried vapes, no go for me.  I tried just smoke, no go for me.  I tried just edibles, no go for me.  For me, smoke and edibles are the trick!

I tried dieting without smoke and edibles, but sleep becomes verrrrry labored and the weight gain is immediate, dramatic, and sickening!  I can gain 20 lbs. of fat and more within one month of labored sleep!

So yes, you can fight obesity with medical marijuana!

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:32 AM

View PostMike949, on 08 September 2011 - 04:47 PM, said:

I can vouch for this study. When I was smoking heavily every day, I would get the munchies but I would only eat 2 meals a day so I was around 190 pounds. I'm 6'1, so that's normal for me. But then when I quit for about a year, I put on a massive amount of weight and was 245. Shit. Now that I'm smoking again, I've lost 20 pounds and am down to 225. If I start exercising and eating a little bit healthier I'm sure I can get down to the weight I was before. But yeah, this report is dead on

Same here. When I was freelancing and medicating pretty regularly, my body fat percentage was below %10 (that's awesome for me) and I was eating about 5 fistfuls of food every day for meals (mostly 'clean' proteins and good veggies). I'm 6'4" and I stayed at that percentage, body weight at 190lbs, almost all muscle, for about 6 years. My medicating only helped me work out, think deeper about my health and nature (what my body is actually built to be like), and it helped me recover. It changed how I ate.

When I stopped medicating (I "detox" from meds every so often, silly I know, but I like a good cleanse)...body fat percentage shot up to about %16 (a LOT for me), workouts got hard, eating got sloppy, and muscle turned to fat. Gained about 25lbs.

Cannabis helps me be healthy and lean, fo sho. This study is legit.
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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:56 PM

I'm actually down to 200 now because I've been eating a lot more healthier. Basically, I created my own diet which is low in cholesterol, high in fiber, less meats, and more green vegetables. I'm still a little bit sloppy on the fruits though. I've been eating bananas, but not much more than that

If I start running on the treadmill for 30 mins a day, I bet I could get down to 185, maybe 180

The greatest thing about eating healthier is that you are ingesting a lot less of the processed foods that have pesticides and antibiotics. I do most of my shopping at Trader Joes now and they have a lot of organic stuff

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

I've come to the conclusion that food was my first drug, my first self medication for depression, anxiety, etc. Even during the first 15 years or so of smoking cannabis, supply was not always reliable, strain choices were usually limited to 2 and never exceeded 5. There would be dry spells, safety and legality issues that always complicated the situation and made it far less available than food and booze.
Since I've had my rec, my weight has steadily been going down and several other areas where I had problems that would otherwise be left to big pharma have abated.
where before I might have easily and quickly been able to use food to self medicate, it's now very easy to use cannabis in it's place, with far less detrimental side effects.
I still love to cook and eat but it's far more enjoyable when it's not done just as some mindless indulgence.
Some people may consider it to be trading one vice for another, that may well be.
But I'll take the vice that wont give me heart disease, kidney disease, diabetes, gout and all those wonderful things over the ones that will do that or whatever big pharma decides is what I need this week and letting me be their guinea pig.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:38 AM

I agree with this too. A peaceful mind makes for a more health-focused body. When I started a couple of years ago I wasn't paying proper attention to what I consumed. Now my taste buds are anti-chemical a lot of the time. I don't like unhealthy chemical foods interfering with the action of my meds.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 09:57 AM

View PostMike949, on 29 February 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

I'm actually down to 200 now because I've been eating a lot more healthier. Basically, I created my own diet which is low in cholesterol, high in fiber, less meats, and more green vegetables. I'm still a little bit sloppy on the fruits though. I've been eating bananas, but not much more than that

If I start running on the treadmill for 30 mins a day, I bet I could get down to 185, maybe 180

The greatest thing about eating healthier is that you are ingesting a lot less of the processed foods that have pesticides and antibiotics. I do most of my shopping at Trader Joes now and they have a lot of organic stuff

CONGRATS Mike949! Sounds like you've got a good plan, you are eating healthy, and you're dropping the bad weight. Great job! And YOU CAN DO IT! 185 or 180, whatever your goal is, you got that on lock man, just keep that healthy attitude and you'll do anything you want.

Also to Gray Matter Malfunction (cool name) - me too. Food has always been a sort of drug for me. When I'm healthy and working out, it's a good drug I suppose, since I'm eating healthy stuff and really just "fueling" my body. But get me during a "bad" phase, and my drug of choice is lattes and buffalo wings and Belgian beer, you name it, and I want to eat it. It's a tough thing to get around but it's also one of those things you can use to your advantage.

Edited by vinyl jones, 02 March 2012 - 10:10 AM.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 04:52 PM

View Postvinyl jones, on 02 March 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

and my drug of choice is lattes and buffalo wings

Yep, I was absolutely obsessed with buffalo wings + blue cheese dressing for a long time :lol:

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:06 AM

I think at times me living in the Woods is a good thing, Being in SF or LA?  That's aloooooooooot of food to choose from.  
Every time im in SF i just think Food, Food, Food.    Or LA, Im craving that mexican Co-Op right next to arena in East La.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 09:39 AM

I can offer some insight here.
I have constant anxiety that I feel in my stomach/gut.
I eat because my brain thinks that will calm it.
it does for about 5 minutes, then I need to eat again.

I just started Medical marijuana (MM) a year ago (for arthritis pain, insomnia, depression) and have dropped 45 pounds this past year.
When I vape/smoke I noticed for the first time in my life that the feeling in my gut was completely gone. I literally rejoiced and was amazed at how good I felt.
I then reflected on a whole lifetime of anxiety in my body and how I tried (unsucessfully) to treat it with food. I speculate that in what is known as "Harm Reduction" use of MM for drug/alcohol replacement could also be used by people like me who treat that feeling in the solar plexis with food.
Just thinking.






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