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#1 jimichunga

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:00 PM

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Kevin Mannix wants to repeal the Oregon Medical Marijuana Act

Kevin Mannix, a well-connected Republican activist who has formerly run for Oregon Governor, has filed a petition for an initiative misleadingly called The Oregon Crimefighting Act of 2008.

The initiative, if it gains enough signatures to qualify for the ballot, "replaces the Medical Marijuana Act with a more medically appropriate Marijuana Derivative and Synthetic Cannabinoid Prescription Program to focus help on those with legitimate needs."

In other words, all medical marijuana patients currently protected under OMMA would no longer be able to grow or use herbal marijuana as of March 31, 2009, and would instead be forced to use synthetic THC pills like Marinol or Cesamet. Many patients find these pills to be ineffective or over effective, with strong undesirable side effects. Additionally, the prescriptions for these medications are very expensive.

Mannix claims that these changes are necessary because of "abuse of the system currently in place" and has couched this language as just one section of an initiative that also provides tough language to fight meth, sex crimes, domestic violence, drunk drivers, and to tighten control over convicted criminals. We must work now to get this information to the people of Oregon so they are not fooled into repealing OMMA in the name of fighting crime. Tell everyone to Just Say No to the Mannix "Oregon Crimefighting Act" initiative.

http://www.ornorml.org/main.php

#2 Midnight Toker

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:30 PM

It'll never fly in Oregon, thank God.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:41 AM

jimichunga said:

Kevin Mannix, a well-connected Republican activist.

The initiative,  "replaces the Medical Marijuana Act with a more medically appropriate Marijuana Derivative and Synthetic Cannabinoid Prescription Program to focus help on those with legitimate needs."

...all medical marijuana patients currently protected under OMMA would instead be forced to use synthetic THC pills like Marinol or Cesamet. Many patients find these pills to be ineffective or over effective, with strong undesirable side effects. Additionally, the prescriptions for these medications are very expensive.

Mannix claims that these changes are necessary because of "abuse of the system currently in place"
Sounds like Mannix is also well-connected to the big drug companies.

If you read the GLACA thread, this seems to be some WTs preference to self-regulation.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:51 AM

Well, they gotta do something to fill those prisons back up.

Don't wanna lose an entire industry you know.

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 07:03 PM

Kevin Mannix has recently dropped all of his efforts to oppose MMJ in the upcoming elections.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 08:58 AM

we grow jack herer , nice.i was told he dropped out because hes running for something else but will never give up............................nor will we.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 03:04 PM

Capt. Zigzag said:

Well, they gotta do something to fill those prisons back up.

Don't wanna lose an entire industry you know.

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Sad but true.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:28 PM

clinton said:

Sad but true.

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Hey,clinton,good to see you here.

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 04:38 PM

Just to let you guys know what is being done because I read this..... I have 7 different republican friends with cards so we are writing him letters by snail mail (heard that they pay more attention to those) to tell him our stories and why he is wrong to oppose the medical program here just in case he keeps trying.  I don't know how much it will help but he should understand how necessary this program is to us. I would not even contemplate doing the next round of chemo without it. And they should not be able to punish people who need it by jail like they used too. WE WILL NOT LIVE IN FEAR ANYMORE!!!! I have been inspired to fight for my rights if they try to take back our program.  You guys are great.:hippie:

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Posted 30 June 2008 - 05:01 PM

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Just to let you guys know what is being done because I read this..... I have 7 different republican friends with cards so we are writing him letters by snail mail (heard that they pay more attention to those) to tell him our stories and why he is wrong to oppose the medical program here just in case he keeps trying.  I don't know how much it will help but he should understand how necessary this program is to us. I would not even contemplate doing the next round of chemo without it. And they should not be able to punish people who need it by jail like they used too. WE WILL NOT LIVE IN FEAR ANYMORE!!!! I have been inspired to fight for my rights if they try to take back our program.  You guys are great.:hippie:



everyone needs to get involved,and understand how to vote, as they seem to word everything the right way so either way it seems like its good for us.
theres to many of us now,last time i talked to ommp she says ,she sees some of the people and can see the need.hang in there and if you need something let us know.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 06:36 AM

ardguard said:

Hey,clinton,good to see you here.
Likewise Ardy. I found this site yesterday. It is very different than our sites.

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Posted 01 July 2008 - 07:32 AM

clinton said:

Likewise Ardy. I found this site yesterday. It is very different than our sites.

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yes,isnt it wonderful.i cant find a home page,lol its so big

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Posted 11 September 2008 - 02:47 PM

I only got my Oregon Medical Mariuana card and a member of Oregon Green Free.
I went to my first local community meeting and I heard nothing of this, so will
ask the group next meeting and see what conversation and information gets shared.
Living in Salem makes this all even more important as a resident of this city.
Easy walk downtown to all the State Buildings .... so let's mark  :-)

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 10:55 PM

did. ;)

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 09:01 PM

If Kevin Mannix wants to change "abuses" in the OMMP system, he should file a petition for Oregon to have medical marijuana dispensaries so medicine is available to all patients easily, rather than trying to find providers or still relying on the black market :thumb:

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Posted 02 January 2009 - 10:44 PM

420meds4me said:

If Kevin Mannix wants to change "abuses" in the OMMP system, he should file a petition for Oregon to have medical marijuana dispensaries so medicine is available to all patients easily, rather than trying to find providers or still relying on the black market :thumb:

If you  were from Oregon and involved in the movement for MMJ here, you would know who Kevin Mannix is. He is a politician who is using Reefer Madness kind of lies and fear tactics to gain public office. When his brother had cancer, he is obtained MJ for him from street dealers. So he is a hypocrite.:nono:

Oregon law does not permit selling MMJ to anyone - even patients. It must be given for no consideration. That is why and what I do at my site. See for yourself. Click on signature link. That is why we do not have dispensaries in Oregon. No profit to be made legally.

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 01:31 AM

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Just to let you guys know what is being done because I read this..... I have 7 different republican friends with cards so we are writing him letters by snail mail (heard that they pay more attention to those) to tell him our stories and why he is wrong to oppose the medical program here just in case he keeps trying.  I don't know how much it will help but he should understand how necessary this program is to us. I would not even contemplate doing the next round of chemo without it. And they should not be able to punish people who need it by jail like they used too. WE WILL NOT LIVE IN FEAR ANYMORE!!!! I have been inspired to fight for my rights if they try to take back our program.  You guys are great.:hippie:


and that is EXACTLY what everyone needs to do.:hippie:
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 02:18 AM

Good luck on getting the Law back to how it was.  Store your medicines!
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Posted 03 January 2009 - 08:35 AM

clinton said:

If you  were from Oregon and involved in the movement for MMJ here, you would know who Kevin Mannix is. He is a politician who is using Reefer Madness kind of lies and fear tactics to gain public office. When his brother had cancer, he is obtained MJ for him from street dealers. So he is a hypocrite.:nono:

Oregon law does not permit selling MMJ to anyone - even patients. It must be given for no consideration. That is why and what I do at my site. See for yourself. Click on signature link. That is why we do not have dispensaries in Oregon. No profit to be made legally.

clinton

I know who he is, sorry this was my dry humor.  He is a foe for sure.  I am also fully aware of all the OMMP laws.  All patients, providers, and caretakers should know and understand the OMMP regulations.  Laws can be changed (well, sometimes) and Dispensaries in Oregon will hopefully be legal here one day!

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Posted 03 January 2009 - 09:43 AM

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I know who he is, sorry this was my dry humor.  He is a foe for sure.  I am also fully aware of all the OMMP laws.  All patients, providers, and caretakers should know and understand the OMMP regulations.  Laws can be changed (well, sometimes) and Dispensaries in Oregon will hopefully be legal here one day!
Here is a new proposal to change the OMMP law:

From Stormy Ray and Jerry Wade on DPFOR:
Patients win again. Changes in OMMA with SRCF bill will create OMMP Manual.
Create patient/caregiver arbitration system. Codify hash as being allowed by
our program. Increase clone/seedling size to 18 by 18. Insure that once
medicine is grown, it is actually given to the patients.

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Stormy Ray Cardholders' Foundation

2008 Oregon Medical Marijuana Act Summit



Legislative Provisions to Improve OMMA

for the 2009 Legislative Session.





1. DHS/OMMP shall create an "Oregon Medical Marijuana Manual" for
Patients and their Caregivers and "Person Responsible for a Grow site."



The manual will provide a clear yet precise interpretation of the legal
parameters of OMMA that patients and their caregivers, and the persons
responsible for a Grow site, can easily understand. The manual should be
available in formats that will accommodate sight and hearing impaired
applicants.



Patients, Caregivers, and Persons responsible for a grow site, must sign a
statement as part of the OMMP application form, that they have read the
"Manual" and understand its contents.



Caregivers, and Persons responsible for a grow site, must sign a statement
as part of their application form that in the event of a dispute between
themselves and the person/s they are growing for, they will agree to
mediation from OMMP.



As part of the mediation process, OMMP will be given the authority to do an
investigation, interview all patient/s, caregiver/s and person responsible
for the grow site involved with the dispute situation.



OMMP will be given the authority to conduct onsite inspections of gardens
involved in a dispute, and if necessary, revoke the caregiver or person
responsible for the grow site's right to grow for someone other than
themselves for up to six months at a time.



OMMP may turn over any evidence of illegal activity gathered during the
investigation to the appropriate authorities.





2. Add Definition of "Hashish" or Hash Oil" to OMMA---



"Hashish" or Hash Oil" means cannabis resin from the plant Cannabis Family
Moraceae that has been processed to isolate or concentrate it from the
leaves, stems, stalks, and /or flowers of the plant. Hashish or Hashish Oil
does not include combustible residue."



No more than two ounces of the 24 ounces of the dried/usable marijuana
allowed by OMMA per patient can be in the form of "Hash" or "Hash oil" that
has not been combined with food or in prepared in a tincture.



Marijuana/Hash that is combined with food or in the form of tinctures is
limited to a four month supply.



3. Patients, Caregivers, and Persons responsible for a grow site can
have up to 24 ounces of dried usable medical marijuana per cardholder living
at a location.



Patients, Caregivers, and Persons responsible for a grow site cannot
transport more than 24 ounces of dried usable medical marijuana at a time.
If two or more cardholders are traveling together, each cardholder could
possess up to 24 ounces. (A patient, their caregiver and the person
responsible for their grow site, collectively can only possess up to 24
ounces.)



If a patient is unable to store their medical marijuana supply at their
location, OMMP can issue an exception at the request of the patient that
will allow the patient's caregiver or person responsible for the patient's
grow site to store the patient's 24 ounces of dried usable marijuana.



Except in situations when OMMP has granted an exception at the request of
the patient, Provision #3 will reduce the amount of dried usable marijuana
that can be possessed by any cardholder to 24 ounces. Under our current law
a caregiver, or grower can possess up to 96 ounces, depending on how many
patients are registered at the grow site.



It is SRCF's belief that once the harvested marijuana becomes "dried usable
medicine" it should be transferred to the patient it was grown for. The
exception is for patients that cannot store their medicine at their
location.



Provision #3 also limits the amount of dried usable medicine that can be
transported by a cardholder to 24 ounces. Our current law allows up to 96
ounces to be transported by a single cardholder, depending on how many
patients the caregiver/grower is producing for.



4. Increase the current limit on the size of clones/seedlings from 12
inches by 12 inches to 18 inches by 18 inches.



The clones or garden stock that will be used to start the next grow cycle
are usually cut from the garden's existing plants allowing patients to keep
the same strains of plants. Cloning the existing plants is often the only
source a patient has to get plants for their next crop. You can't just run
down to Rite-Aid and buy more.



When clones near the 12 inch height limit, excess clones are culled and the
six best clones are kept to replace the plants that are about to be
harvested.



Unfortunately, even when clones are taken on the last possible day, clones
will probably exceed the 12 by 12 height limit before the mature plants in
the garden can be harvested. Most one room gardens will be out of
compliance for about two to three weeks until flowering plants can be
harvested. Without an affirmative defense for having extra plants, every
patient trying to grow using a single room is in jeopardy. By increasing the
height limit of clones to 18 by 18 we will give patients a fighting chance
at staying in compliance with our law.


If you read it carefully there are some positive and a big negative as the OMMP will report to police any violations they may find, with their new power to inspect grow sites. You have to sign a statement that you know the OMMP law. If you are in violation in any way - say a plant grew 1 inch and now counts toward your six mature or flowering plants, and you have 7. That is illegal and you will be prosecuted. Now they just destroy a plant if you are over.

I see this bringing liabilities to growers. If this becomes law I fear that fewer growers will want to grow for a patient.

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Edited by clinton, 03 January 2009 - 09:46 AM.

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Posted 18 January 2011 - 01:59 PM

i heard her latest proposal is going to outlaw people growing for themselves at all and just allow coop non profits to do it.yuch!

does anyone know if this is true?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 06:47 PM

There are 29 different bills dealing with marijuana being worked on in Oregon.
I would suggest folks read them and contact their house reps and state senators and give them your thoughts.
I tried to post a link to a list of the bills , it didn't work . Here it is written out  http://www.leg.state...ana&submit=Go  

For a site to locate your Oregon House Rep   http://www.leg.state.or.us/house/

For a site to locate your Oregon State Senator  http://www.leg.state.or.us/senate/

Edited by howlin420, 19 February 2011 - 07:09 PM.





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