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#1 SativaMan

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:07 PM

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Hi I've been smoking EarWax now for about many months.At first I loved it and would put alittle dab in my bowls.It was great for my pain.I've bought it from Different Coops and started to notice that when taking a hit 1)- My Lungs were Killing me.2)- My Throat was getting Sore.3)- Was Heavily Medicated but Felt Weird in the Head, Not like Normal Bud/Hash/Etc.<p>So I read on another post that basically all EarWAX is, Is Hash Oil whipped up with BUTANE to make it the way it comes out.<p>Reading the Butane Thing freaked me out and made sense.When lighting a Bowl with Earwax in it, It would Light up like a Candle and Stay Lit till I covered it.<p>Anyway As I said I used to Love it but myself and 3 other patients I smoke with all felt the same way about the effects and dangers of the Butane.<p>One said we might as well just Spray BUTANE on our Bud.Let it dry alittle & then Smoke that.(J/K) It would be alot cheaper though but just as dangerous.<p>Also I'm not an Expert in any way but wanted to share my experiences about it.<p>Also If it is Indeed made with BUTANE I think it Should be Mandatory that The Co-ops Tell Us This as alot of people with Breathing or other Problems Should Be Aware That This Shit Has Poison In It.<p>Anyone Else Have Problems with it? Or Agree or Disagree with the Butane Logic.:faint2: :faint2: :twitch: :faint2:

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:17 PM

could have been a bad batch. but you wont ever extract out all the butane, even in a great batch. might want to switch to water/ice hash.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:24 PM

Get a volcano.  It's perfect for earwax and it is super smooth and actually pleasant tasting for a concentrate.  I've never experienced those symptoms you speak of and I luv the wax.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:28 PM

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Get a volcano.  It's perfect for earwax and it is super smooth and actually pleasant tasting for a concentrate.  I've never experienced those symptoms you speak of and I luv the wax.

butane boils at room temp so if you vape it you will still consume as much butane residue as you would with a pipe or bong.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:33 PM

You probably had a bad batch. In the future I would try vaporizing the concentrates or smoking them through a water pipe to help cool the smoke. You might find it less harsh on your throat and lungs.

The Butane (BHO) extractions, when done properly, and fully "cleaned/distilled", should not contain high enough quantities of butane to cause any concern, even for moderate - high consumers. However, if the BHO is not "finished", the BHO will spark when flame is applied and may provide the user with some undesirable effects such as harsh smoke and headaches.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:38 PM

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You probably had a bad batch. In the future I would try vaporizing the concentrates or smoking them through a water pipe to help cool the smoke. You might find it less harsh on your throat and lungs.

The Butane (BHO) extractions, when done properly, and fully "cleaned/distilled", should not contain high enough quantities of butane to cause any concern, even for moderate - high consumers. However, if the BHO is not "finished", the BHO will spark when flame is applied and may provide the user with some undesirable effects such as harsh smoke and headaches.
Thanks I guess I've been getting some Bad Batches Cause I forgot to Mention the Killer Headaches:doh:  that I got as well.:dizzy:

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:49 PM

You might want to consider speaking with the dispensaries from whom you've gotten these meds. It's possible other patients are experiencing the same symptoms. If it's a bad batch, you can assured the dispensaries would like to know, so that something can be done with the vendor, whether it's replacement or no longer using that vendor to supply them.

Maybe a little break is needed from BHO concentrates. Possibly try water, ice or traditional pressed hash or kief for a little while instead. It's possible that your lungs need a break as well. Maybe switch to edibles for a few days or a week, or incorporate them into your medicating schedule to help offset the sore throat and help you "heal" for a little bit

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:54 PM

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However, if the BHO is not "finished", the BHO will spark when flame is applied

that's the key Hands......if it looks like the Fourth of July when you spark your bowl, then DONT SMOKE IT........

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 01:19 PM

Exactly. I like to keep my fire works and my meds separate . . . at least to the point where I'm not getting a "show" while I'm smoking :)

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 01:57 PM

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that's the key Hands......if it looks like the Fourth of July when you spark your bowl, then DONT SMOKE IT........

Just let it stay out and evap a little longer. Butane boils at 31 degrees F at normal atmospheric pressure (14.7 PSI). If its been purged and still acts weird, then they used low grade butane (full of mercaptans)and it prolly wont kill you the first time, but its not good for you...

I MUCH prefer something made with 191proof everclear... ethanol = wont kill you if residue left over. Or denatured or ISO as a 2nd choice. M3 knows his concentrates and yer boy dont like BHO... Yeck.

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 09:53 PM

i kno this isnt about earwax but its related to the topic-
there are a few co-ops that have recently been offering something called 'morrocan' hash:suspicious: . i kno that it isnt actually from morroco but this stuff is nothing like regular hash of any sort ive ever encountered. its dark brown and looks like pressed brown sugar kind of, sorta like loose grainy bubble, its very soft when you mush it between your fingers. when a flame is put to it, it smells like burning tires and starts to bubble like soapy water!- is anyone familliar with this stuff? this cant be good for you, :sick: it gave me an awful headache like standing behind a bus.:dizzy:
:noidea: any info on this would greatly be appreciated, thx

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 10:35 PM

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i kno this isnt about earwax but its related to the topic-
there are a few co-ops that have recently been offering something called 'morrocan' hash:suspicious: . i kno that it isnt actually from morroco but this stuff is nothing like regular hash of any sort ive ever encountered. its dark brown and looks like pressed brown sugar kind of, sorta like loose grainy bubble, its very soft when you mush it between your fingers. when a flame is put to it, it smells like burning tires and starts to bubble like soapy water!- is anyone familliar with this stuff? this cant be good for you, :sick: it gave me an awful headache like standing behind a bus.:dizzy:
:noidea: any info on this would greatly be appreciated, thx

sounds like soapbar from england...

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 11:40 PM

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sounds like soapbar from england...

ohhhh man, i sure hope not. ive heard thats some baaaddd
stuff. but it couldnt be, i mean if its something similar, it shouldnt be offered to we patients who may become ill from impurities. i mean, when does the dollar actually replace ethics? this is supposed to be 'safe' access to our meds. so why would we want access to 'un-safe' meds after all...? maybe i just opened a can of worms but this isnt the kind of thing to be silent about, i hope others agree that a quick buck shouldnt be at the expense of the suffering.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 01:12 AM

I was given a couple of grams of soapbar, called "Lillypad" at the time.  It had a real soapy taste, and I had to throw out the container.  It did get me real medicated, though.  I just wouldn't smoke it again on purpose...

The more traditional forms of hash (Lebanese, Nepalese, Afghani, kief) do not contain BHO.  I don't know from the melts.  Most forms of kief and hash will do the "light up like a candle" trick, and that is why traditional hashpipes from the middle and far east frequently have a lid.  If you want to avoid the "candle" vibe, try using a phaedor, or vaping.

I myself prefer the more traditional forms, my absolute fave being Nepalese Temple Balls, but I will have to wait until I go to Amsterdam later this year to sample those....

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 12:01 PM

w.e.e.d has some of the  cleanest concentrates i've seen..alot of co ops don't pay attention to concentrates as much as they do weed therefore chances are the concentrates are poorly made with a large residu and mold build all over them, check out cornerstone research for their black seed hash, its the cleanest i've ever had...thc has great concentrates as well :hippie:

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 09:40 AM

i hate butane

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:00 AM

THERE'S A TON OF GREAT REPLYS ON THIS PAGE BUT LET'S SIMPLIFY IT:

BUTANE! VERY VERY VERY VERY BAD!


NO MATTER HOW MUCH A PERSON CLAIMS IT'S BEEN PURGED, IT WAS CREATED WITH BUTANE.

I ENJOY A NICE HASH OIL OR EARWAX JUST LIKE THE REST OF US, BUT I'VE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO AVOID ANYTHING MADE WITH BUTANE.

SIMPLY NOT WORTH IT...THIS IS YOUR HEALTH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE!

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:05 AM

ive been trying to warn wters about this since day one. buy your wax at rdc, its made by buddah himself. we flash all the butane out. every co op is trying to make it themselves nowadays, thats why you see it on the news more and more(houses blowing up). the shop up the street is making their own buddah,the owners girlfriend makes it w residule butane  still in it, its sooo very dangerous to smoke. she told me in a post and pm that she is sure she knows how to make it, but when i asked her, she was using regular lighter fluid(very toxic) she flashes it on a stove, makes it with 3 kids in her house. im sure youll see her on the news someday!(p.s. the same lady who preaches its ok to smoke all the weed you want while pregnant)  dont try to make buddahs, leave this up to the experts. dont come on wt telling howto make it if you dont know. dont smoke buddah that crackles and flares up when lit. please dont try to make buddah, please.we have lost 4 wters lives making buddah. dont do it!
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ive been trying to warn wters about this since day one. buy your wax at rdc, its made by buddah himself. we flash all the butane out. every co op is trying to make it themselves nowadays, thats why you see it on the news more and more(houses blowing up). the shop up the street is making their own buddah,the owners girlfriend makes it w residule butane  still in it, its sooo very dangerous to smoke. she told me in a post and pm that she is sure she knows how to make it, but when i asked her, she was using regular lighter fluid(very toxic) she flashes it on a stove, makes it with 3 kids in her house. im sure youll see her on the news someday!(p.s. the same lady who preaches its ok to smoke all the weed you want while pregnant)  dont try to make buddahs, leave this up to the experts. dont come on wt telling howto make it if you dont know. dont smoke buddah that crackles and flares up when lit. please dont try to make buddah, please.we have lost 4 wters lives making buddah. dont do it!



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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:30 AM

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ive been trying to warn wters about this since day one. buy your wax at rdc, its made by buddah himself. we flash all the butane out. every co op is trying to make it themselves nowadays, thats why you see it on the news more and more(houses blowing up). the shop up the street is making their own buddah,the owners girlfriend makes it w residule butane  still in it, its sooo very dangerous to smoke. she told me in a post and pm that she is sure she knows how to make it, but when i asked her, she was using regular lighter fluid(very toxic) she flashes it on a stove, makes it with 3 kids in her house. im sure youll see her on the news someday!(p.s. the same lady who preaches its ok to smoke all the weed you want while pregnant)  dont try to make buddahs, leave this up to the experts. dont come on wt telling howto make it if you dont know. dont smoke buddah that crackles and flares up when lit. please dont try to make buddah, please.we have lost 4 wters lives making buddah. dont do it!


We do not make are own Earwax...You keep talking about us for know reason.I really hope it makes you feel better..All we do is support the MMJ community..You know this just lets the community see the real person...We have so much love and support from the MMJ community...thank you ..I wish you the best.....much love....

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:34 AM

gcguy said:

the shop up the street is making their own buddah,the owners girlfriend makes it w residule butane  still in it, its sooo very dangerous to smoke. she told me in a post and pm that she is sure she knows how to make it, but when i asked her, she was using regular lighter fluid(very toxic) she flashes it on a stove, makes it with 3 kids in her house.
you continue to tell lies gcguy.  first of all the shop you are talking about DOES NOT make their own ear wax.....you and i have NEVER had a discussion in person, by post or PM about ear wax.....and you most definately have no idea what goes on around my children........

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p.s. the same lady who preaches its ok to smoke all the weed you want while pregnant
if you read my thread about this topic, you will see that is clearly NOT what i said, i said IN MODERATION UNDER DOCTORS SUPERVISION.....:doh:

seriously, don't you have some race or something else to do other than harrass me??

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Posted 17 June 2007 - 10:40 AM

This thread has gone FAR off topic and I think the original question has been answered so time to close it down.




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