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What's the best way to smoke a concentrate?

  1. Voted The R-1 Concentrate Bowl (14 votes [4.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.86%

  2. Voted The Glass Wand Concentrate Bowl Combo (34 votes [11.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.81%

  3. Voted The Vapor Globe/Vapor Dome (32 votes [11.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  4. Voted The Vapor Swing, Ti-Curve, Cut Vape, Skillet, etc (92 votes [31.94%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.94%

  5. Voted The Bed of Ash (22 votes [7.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.64%

  6. Voted I Just Squish it Between Some Weed (94 votes [32.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.64%

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#1 scpot

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 05:45 PM

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I offer these reviews of the different concentrate bowls up to the community as a fellow patient who has tried just about everything and has formed opinions based on my experience. For several reasons that I'm glad to discuss and debate in a friendly manner I have my favorite. Click on any thumbnail for a larger image.

R-1 Concentrate Bowl

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PROS:

This bowl is the perfect device for smoking non full melt hashes. You can use a regular butane lighter with it if that's all that you have, but it's recommended that you upgrade to a butane lighter filled with 5x refined butane at the very least. You can also use a modified Hakko (discussed here http://www.weedtrack...highlight=hakko) or a glass rod whose tip has been heated up with a torch. It works great with full melt hash too. The best thing about this piece is that it's cheap and retails for about $30.

CONS:


Oils melt right through the screen. I wish it would've come with some extra screens as after a couple weeks of usage the screen needs to be replaced.

Glass Wand Concentrate Bowl Combo

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PROS:

This bowl is hands down the best utensil for smoking full melt hash, and it works great with Budder or Stable Earwax too. There is no hole at the bottom of the bowl but there are slits cut into the glass along the inside. You deposit your concentrate at the bottom of the bowl and then heat up the tip of the glass rod and then sort of lightly smash the concentrate on the bottom of the bowl with the hot glass tip. Upon contact the concentrate vaporizes and is sucked into your smoking aparatus through the inner slits. Glass rods are cheap and easy to replace, so when they inevitably break from being constantly heated up and cooled, you're only out about 5 bucks. The average retail price for one of these bowls, a set of two glass rods, and a glass rod stand to keep from burning yourself or your table is $60

CONS:

This piece is not recommended for oils or anything sticky.If you have to melt it to get it into the bowl you will smear your hit on the insides way too often. There is always left over concentrate after your hit. Overtime a thick residue builds up that requires soaking to get rid of. Not to mention if you take one hit of something that tastes off, every hit after will taste a little bit like it until you soak it in simple green for a few days. When the glass rods that constantly get heated up inevitably break you have to go out and buy another glass rod, and if you're anything like me a trip to my local headshop means that I won't be able to leave until I at least buy a new slide too.

Vapor Globe, Vapor Dome

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PROS

All glass on glass construction means a clean hit everytime. This bowl comes in three pieces: the first attaches to your bong, the second is a glass nail with a divet on top that rests in the first piece, and the third is a glass dome that attaches to the first piece covering the glass nail. There is a hole in the dome big enough for a utensil to fit in either directly on top of the dome, or right where the top of the nail is. You use it by heating up the head of the glass nail, attaching the dome, and then dabbing some concentrate on the end of a tool onto the nail head. The dome keeps most of the vapor from being wasted. When the glass nail inevitably breaks from constantly being heated up and cooled, you're only out about $10-15 as opposed to the $60-80 this piece retails for.

CONS

The glass nail breaks and it's hard to find replacements... not impossible just hard. Not to mention, these are hand blown pieces and every nail needs to be a different size. You need a spotter the first time you use this to get the hang of it. After a brief tutorial though you'll be able to use this safely when you're heavily medicated. Which is good, because if your spotter did a half way decent job showing you how to use it, you will be.

The Vapor Swing, Ti-Curve, Cut Vape, Skillet, etc

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You swing the titanium pad up, heat it with a torch, swing it back underneath the bowl, and use a tool to apply a little bit of concentrate to the pad. Inhale. It only takes a little itsy-bitsy tiny amount of any concentrate to become thoroughly medicated. I counted, and was able to pull 37 hits out of 1 gram of oil. Each time I was incredibly medicated. In fact, I can say confidently that this design is the absolute most efficient way to smoke anything that is oily, gooey, and/or sticky, and disolves completely. I also love how long these pieces last. I know people that have had pieces like this for years, use them everyday, and they're still going strong. Mine I've used for a year, and now that I almost exclusively use it and smoke concentrates my lungs are clearer and I can breathe better (quiitting cigarettes didn't hurt either though). And the flavor... my god. Everytime you take a hit it's like you're using a new piece for your first tme because anything left over is burnt away in preperation for its next use. It's a good thing these pieces last forever because they retail for between $70 (at SCPOT)-90. The value is quickly recovered though as you use way less meds for way more effect.

CONS

You can not smoke regular hash from this piece, and full melt is not recommended either. When first using this piece it is essential that you have a spotter as there are a few tricks that increase efficiency and overall experience. This is not a party device, but simple the very best tool that our community has come up with yet for a very specific job.

Bed of Ash

PROS

All that you have to do is smoke a bowl over a glass screen until it's all ashy. Once you have a bowl full of ash you drop a half a tear drop sized drop of concentrate directly in the middle of the ashy bowl. You only want to put enough for a single hit on it. The way that you do this is you get a little bit of concentrate on the end of a paperclip or pin, hold the end right over where you want it to drop, and heating up the paperclip so that the concentrate drips off. I learned this trick from the guy who "invented" The Juice.

CONS

You lose flavor, but thankfully not potency.

DISCLAIMER

This is not the official opinion of SCPOT just one of its employees, Big D. I welcome disagreements and imput from the community but hope everyone can remain civil. I know my fellow concentrate heads are passionate about our meds and what we smoke them out of.

So please disagree, disect, just stay respectful and on topic please!

Edited by scpot, 16 August 2009 - 08:36 PM.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:48 PM

Nice, I will add a few you missed

hookah Coal with a glass tube

Great way to do it but i still dont like the use of a hookah coal, You heat up the coal on something flameproof and when its red hot you smear the hash on the coal and inhale the smoke with the glass tube, Its a decent way of doing it

Just putting it on a bowl ;-)

Vaporizing it in the Volcano With the Mesh Screen

I like this as the taste is great but it seems very inefficient, high grade hash seems to melt away, disappear almost , tastes amazing, and produces little medicinal effect in comparison to the skillet, or other concentrate bowls

Hash spider
A CARE invention, a Glass spider like device that works in unicen with a bun-sen burner sitting under it (the little candles that sit under dishes in a buffet), You put the hash on a scalpel or tool and put it in the spider and swirl it on the glass over the flame and inhale through a tube, Albeit a plastic tube ;-( but still a great way to do it.

The Atom Smasher (another CARE invention)

Similar to the Illedelph Concentrate bowl but with a glass rod built in on a hinge so you heat up the rod and twist it into the bowl and pop it up and down to get your hit, Another very functional concentrate smoking device that's all glass on glass but is a bit finicky and requires some finesse to get going  

Hash rock bed, Get some partial melt or Rock hash and break it into a pebble bed, Then put the budder or Oil etc on top, love that ;-).

I definitely agree that the skillet CONSERVES HASH SO WELL its CRAZY! 37 hits from a gram of budder or oil doesn't surprise me at all! It really does make medicating a much more efficient and immediately effective process.


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Posted 16 August 2009 - 06:56 PM

I smoke my concentrates by inhalings!

...hehhhe yeah....inhalings....

I use a glass rod for everything.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:03 PM

As long as the concentrate is "melty" enough (budder or oil) the Vapor Globe is my method of choice.  

Super clean hit

Only one hand needed

Almost no waste

Thicker smoke than with the skillet (not as much air mixes with the smoke)

#5 honeykhyber

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:10 PM

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hookah Coal with a glass tube

Great way to do it but i still dont like the use of a hookah coal, You heat up the coal on something flameproof and when its red hot you smear the hash on the coal and inhale the smoke with the glass tube, Its a decent way of doing it

Another way to use a Hookah Coal is to shape it to the size of your bowl, heat it up with a torch, then drop a piece of hash on it and you can use your bong or pipe as normal.  The smoke goes right through the coal and around the sides.  Works well with non full melts.

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 08:34 PM

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Another way to use a Hookah Coal is to shape it to the size of your bowl, heat it up with a torch, then drop a piece of hash on it and you can use your bong or pipe as normal.  The smoke goes right through the coal and around the sides.  Works well with non full melts.

I like the sound of this... Coal Bowl. Hmmmmm I gotta go talk to a glass blower about a thing... :bolt:
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 12:19 AM

I usually use a concentrate bowl 18.8, that is specifically made for very fine concentrates (as far as texture not in a stuck up way).  Also have a glass hash pipe thats convenient.  Always use hemp line as it's way less of a hassle than my wand. Just my .02

Edited by mon-well, 17 August 2009 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 17 August 2009 - 02:27 AM

R1 all the way!!!!
Hash.... yes!
Full Melt... yes!
Oil/wax... yes! (just use a second screen)
Love the R1 it just has a slight learning curve.

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 04:09 AM

The erbopipe (erbopipe.com) delivers very smooth hits.  I love it for smoking hash.

I also like the pin under glass method, and a hash oil pipe for oils (simple round globe at the end of the stem, all glass, load through the little hole in the top of the globe and light by heating the glass from below.

The skillet/vapor swing sounds awesome!  I'd like to try one.

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 06:35 AM

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The *erbopipe (erbopipe.com) delivers very smooth hits.  I love it for smoking hash.



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Posted 17 August 2009 - 08:54 AM

This thread has been an eye opener so far for me. I honestly thought the Erbo pipe was dead, but I stand corrected. I'm gonna see how my vapor swing works with it!
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 04:40 PM

IF I go someplace like KM I for sure love the skillet, but most of the time green screen it. Not really squish in, more a on top of some... And I prefer the full melts, and waxes.

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 04:46 PM

"How do you smoke your concentrates?" ....uhhh,  sitting down

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 05:22 PM

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"How do you smoke your concentrates?" ....uhhh,  sitting down


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Posted 17 August 2009 - 06:20 PM

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I smoke my concentrates by inhalings!

...hehhhe yeah....inhalings....

I use a glass rod for everything.

me too, straight glass want, put a drop, chunk, wateves on there with your vap whip ready...oile you jus gotta let it cool off a second or 2 otherwise its too haot and it drips all over the plate insteada vaping all off hte paper clip when touched to the glass...just my experiences... right now im enjoying some purple kush drysift i made earlyer and pressed into hash. its 90 micron, so pretty dam good and melts quite good... smokin on glass screen outa my fav bowl with the glass wand...amazing!!!:couch2::couch2:

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 08:43 PM

do you happen to know where to find a vapor globe and nail?

-much thanks

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 08:50 PM

honeykhyber said:

Another way to use a Hookah Coal is to shape it to the size of your bowl, heat it up with a torch, then drop a piece of hash on it and you can use your bong or pipe as normal.  The smoke goes right through the coal and around the sides.  Works well with non full melts.

i like the sound of this too but i would be afraid that the coal would be too hot for blown glass..i dont know if it gets as hot as a vapor gun but i know if you do not have the right bowl or glass and you use a vapor gun it will fuck it up. can you share some more insight man?

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 10:10 PM

I actually just roll it up with my joints, lately i've just taken some full melt hash and put a nice chunk between the grinded weed, and roll it up in my roller. It works great, I can fully enjoy its taste, and when I'm done it's very easy clean up, it's great for when I don't have a pipe or bong to use. Sometimes when it's really good stuff, I use 2 or 3 crutches and just have a little bit at the end surrounded by some weed to help it burn. It's just as effective if not more than smoking a whole joint. I just bought some Honey Bud recently and can't wait to roll some up.

Edited by spyyder88, 17 August 2009 - 10:45 PM.


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Posted 18 August 2009 - 08:18 AM

newcubismfilm said:

do you happen to know where to find a vapor globe and nail?

-much thanks

been tryin to get my hands on one too. and a ti curve.  i often use the melty melty super sticky bubblehash... so imthinkin either way will rip like crazy.  my friend knows a glass blower and he's helpin me get a nail and globe setup.  talk to local blowers...good luck

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 08:36 AM

pogoismydog420 said:

been tryin to get my hands on one too. and a ti curve.  i often use the melty melty super sticky bubblehash... so imthinkin either way will rip like crazy.  my friend knows a glass blower and he's helpin me get a nail and globe setup.  talk to local blowers...good luck

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 08:43 AM

glass wand concentrate bowls were my fav untill I tried the swing and now I have found my new love. The atom smasher is a great tool but I think it still needs some improvements before I grab one up, and not a great tool for non-stable concentrates. The swing gives the cleanest and most tasty hits ever IMO

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 11:06 AM

Yeah Agreed, The Illedelph Concentrate Bowl and The Atom Smasher both need a little work, Too much jiggling around etc, not efficient enough, I just tried the illidelph concentrate bowl yesterday and it works well but you have to wiggle the rod soo much in order to get all the hash off the sides, and theres alot of resin wasted at the end ;-(.
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Posted 18 August 2009 - 11:52 AM

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Pogo......try this website: www.aqualabtechnologies.com:hippie:

found it!! good call innerlight! now i just gotta come up on some cash..:frusty: but i cant frigen wait to get my hands on one of them

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 01:11 PM

newcubismfilm said:

i like the sound of this too but i would be afraid that the coal would be too hot for blown glass..i dont know if it gets as hot as a vapor gun but i know if you do not have the right bowl or glass and you use a vapor gun it will fuck it up. can you share some more insight man?

I don't use this technique too often but I have never had any glass break although it wouldn't surprise me if it does.  I use the ROOR bowl that came with my bong since I don't use it for anything else anyway.

Basically the process is this...

Break a small piece of hookah coal to about the size of your bowl. (try and make a cone shape)

Heat the coal with a butane torch for a few seconds...doesn't take long.

Put the concentrate on the coal and inhale.

After you're done dump the coal into a sink with water in it. (don't throw it in the trash or you'll have a nice fire)  Also don't leave it the bowl as it stays hot!

It's not my favorite way to smoke but it does work.

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 01:56 PM

I ASK MY CONCENTRATES FIRST, HOW THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE SMOKED? :der: AND IF WE BOTH (concentrates and myself) :hug: AGREE ON THE SAID METHOD :high5: WE PROCEED FORWARD TO STEP 2! HEATING UP THE SKILLET, OR THE R1 BOWL OR THE GLASS WAND/CONCENTRATE PIPE OR SOME OTHER UTENSIL!   STEP 3! I APPLY CONCENTRATE TO HEATED DEVICE EVER SO GINGERLY OR VICE VERSA, ALL THE WHILE BEING CAREFUL TO NOT ALARM THE CONCENTRATE THAT IT'S ABOUT TO BE SMOKED!!! (if it's PURE & INNOCENT) IT COULD SCARE EASILY AND FALL OFF THE APPLICATOR!!! AND THEN (pause,pause) INHALE!!! REPEAT STEPS 2 AND 3 OVER AND OVER!!!!!   I'M SOOOO BAKED RIGHT NOW! I HAVE NO IDEA :noidea: WHAT I'M SAYING!!! :whoo:




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